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Sporting Kansas City at New England Revolution Match Thread
Come discuss the Sporting Kansas City versus New England Revolution match live. Plus, referees, records and how to watch.
Sporting Kansas City at New England Revolution
Time: 6:30 pm CST
Location: Gillette Stadium, Foxboro, MA
How to Watch: Apple TV MLS Live (FREE)
Commentators: English: Callum Williams & Lori Lindsey | Spanish Juan Arango & Carlos Suarez
Referees:
REF: Nima Saghafi
AR1: Corey Rockwell
AR2: Walt Heatherly
4TH: Guido Gonzales Jr
VAR: Alejandro Mariscal
AVAR: Jonathan Johnson
The Teams
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Credit: Sporting Kansas City
Sporting Kansas City
0-5-3, 3 points
14th in the West
Head Coach: Peter Vermes (15th season)
Last 5: L-L-D-L-L
Injury Report:
Sporting KC Injury Updates & Lineup Predictions v New England
Credit: New England Revolution
New England Revolution
5-1-2, 17 points
1st in the East
Head Coach: Bruce Arena (5th season)
Last 5: W-W-D-W-D
Injury Report:
Here’s the latest #NERevs availability report pic.twitter.com/PmcqiJkQmh
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Love the cover pic for this in light of the lineups for tonight…glad to see Kinda on the bench at least. Good luck to you all, I will be ignoring reality around a campfire tonight.
Im also doing something else with my Saturday night! Apathy has set in.
Whats funny is, I knew the lineup when I picked that picture.
Photo reserves are a bit limited.
Ndenbe returns from injury. Duke for the injured Zusi. Fontas for the suspended Castellanos. Espinoza for Hernandez. Interesting Kinda is in the 20 since PV said earlier in the week he wouldn’t play him on that turf. Maybe he just meant he wouldn’t start him.
If PV thinks Hernandez was the problem, we are watching a different team play soccer.
https://twitter.com/SportingKC/status/1649906364079128580
I’m not sure Hernandez was better or worse than anyone else. But Espinoza hasn’t been able to run 30mins in the last month. So forgive me for not thinking he’s a starter.
New England’s due for a loss.
Ugh. Duke’s been exploited twice already.
Make that 3.
Yeah, Duke is getting beat up at RB. He’s been out of position A LOT early in this game.
Yeah. I’m just going to go out on a limb and say whatever Cam Duke’s final MLS position will be…right back is not it.
I want cam Duke to be traded. Not because i don’t like him, but he deserves a chance to be properly developed instead of whatever shit PV is doing to him.
Also, someone needs to track Gil. Or this is going to be a short watch
Roger with a late, pointless challenge from behind. That would usually get him a yellow.
Surprised it wasn’t solely on reputation.
Exactly. And he’s gotten away with another even.
I think he didn’t give it because of the one he gave to Fontas was not a yellow
Pulido needs to do better in transition. Played that pass right between Salloi’s feet. As if he couldn’t decide to either play it to him or Thommy.
He also stopped a run way too soon that Duke perfectly weighted a pass to. He would have been in on goal
The only thing this team does with the ball is pass it backward or give it to Pulido so he can lose it in the New England half. Another long night.
Don’t forget the no-hope 35yard+ shots. Like Walter did.
You have to shoot from distance if they give you the space.
They’ll concede those shots all night.
No. You really don’t.
You should. That shot wasn’t great but Walter has the ability to threaten goal with shots outside the box. If you never take those then defense will never step to it quickly and open up space. Part of what thommy changed last season was a threat from outside the box.
And if you’re never dangerous inside the box, opposing teams will take their chances on occasional Wundergoals in exchance for being able to dominate otherwise.
What is Roger Espinoza doing as the player in the center forward channel on a transition?!
Offside run from him left Russell no one to pass to.
Well…that was too easy. Cheap turnover on the throw-in. One pass, and a simple 2v1.
And so it goes…
Sigh…here we go again
Russell and Salloi are both dropping too deep in defense, meanwhile Thommy, Walter, and Espinoza are all over the place. Thommy and Espinoza need to help the FBs defend the wing and let Walter patrol centrally. Russell/Salloi should be playing closer to the halfway line so we’re poised for the counter attack. I mean this is simple stuff, I don’t know why our coaches aren’t seeing it.
Can we just decline throw-ins? I haven’t seen this many turnovers on own throws since FM 18.
Yeah. Two that led to goals. It’s insane. Espinoza rushed the first into a triple teamed Russell.
Duke threw into the middle of the field where Pulido was surrounded.
Then everyone was just ball watching (besides Duke) on the rebound that led to the second goal.
#VermesOut
#WeDeserveBetter
That’s it, I’m switching over to MLS360. I gave SKC a chance to be worth watching.
I normally like MLS360 but it’s pretty disorienting when the whole league is wearing the same uniforms.
Yeah, and nothing says “concern for the environment,” than special jerseys to be sold for corporate bucks.
“Consume more to save the planet!” Maybe I’d be impressed if they actually started making everyday jerseys from recycled plastic. These are just wasteful gimmicks, as cool as the concept is.
i agree, but it’s funny how anger at team performance is turning into general anger at stuff
Oh, I’m not a fan of these “consume for causes” jerseys in general.
I was angry before I was disgusted. I’m an anger hipster.
I’m saying it.
This team looks like it’s quit on Vermes.
I agree. In watching the first half, I just saw a team with many flaws and very little belief.
Vermes out.
That’s what I was thinking in the first half. They actually came out with some fight in the 2nd half, but that first half was some of the worst effort I can remember around the two goals.
It’s like Chris(?) Wittingly(?) said during the podcast.
SKC has been on the verge for 2.5 seasons now, but a constant string of injuries, and other bad luck situations have left us gnawing at the wooden spoon.
At what point do we address the elephant in the room and say the constant string of injuries and other mis-givings isn’t just bad luck, but a combination of things:
Vermes Out.
The team looks like it’s joined the movement.
He’s gotta go.
Going to make a pan of baklava. I know those ingredients work well together.
#WeDeserveBetter
My evening peaked with fresh-ground venison burgers on homemade sourdough rolls with garden greens and homemade mustard. Should’ve made another burger instead of hitting the couch.
I can’t believe my eyes. Goal from a set piece… not in 1,000,000 years would anyone expect it
Oh my gosh… we actually score a point. Wow!
So Espinoza is playing wing, Russell inside him. And Pulido is almost a deep-lying playmaker.
And for the 2nd week in a row, SKC loses a centerback. Disaster class all game from Fontas.
I know right?! I said something similar in an earlier comment. I don’t understand our positioning. Midfielders are all over the place, wingers are dropping too deep and tucking in centrally, Pulido is never where you want him to be.
I think the reason it was that way was to protect Roger’s legs.
It’s wild that we haven’t just replaced him with someone that is physically capable to play in the role. Coaches would rather warp the formation instead to mask his limitations.
Should have never re-signed him. We knew both he and Isi were shit last year. I’d be more willing to suffer through a rebuilding year if we were actually rebuilding. But after a truly horrid season, Vermes said “let’s run it the fuck back!” and brought back a bunch of dudes who can’t hang anymore. Zusi is a relic from MLS 2.0. Roger too. Their best years are so far behind them. Fontas has had 1 season worth the $1m per year. But he and Pulido are racing to be the biggest swing and miss of the Vermes era.
Fontas, lol. Vrioni just worked him over.
SMH
In all my years as a soccer fan (~15) I have never seen this many red cards for one team in such a short span of games. I’m speechless
Fontas gonna fontas
I jogged home from work due to my car being in the shop. On the way I thought, “I better start doing this more often. Sporting may need me.” Walked in the door just to see the red and fontas acting like he didn’t know he deserved a red……I may actually be needed
Well, reviewing it for Red when it was a 2nd yellow anyway was insult to injury.
Oh yeah it’s Khiry! Said no one
So Shelton in for Pulido. sigh
I guess the review was for DOGSO? I didn’t think yellow was reviewable.
#WeDeserveBetter
All potential reds are reviewable. Missed yellows are not.
Even if the red is the result of a second yellow? I had no doubt the foul deserved a booking.
#WeDeserveBetter
A hard red carries different penalties than yellow accumulation, so yea.
Absolutely. It was dogso. Even without his first yellow that is a arguable red card.
Thanks for the clarification. No problem with either call; as Shawn said, reviewing a second yellow for a straight red was just adding insult to injury.
#WeDeserveBetter
HOW IS SHELTON AN ANSWER FOR ANYTHING THIS SEASON? ANYTHING? PLAY THIS KIDS AT THIS POINT.
Why would you take your best player off when you’re down a man and a goal?! Madness
If Pulido isn’t fit to go the full 90, then why are we starting him? I’d rather see him come on in the middle of the 2nd half as an impact sub until he’s back to full fitness
Maybe they’re taking him off before he quits in disgust mid-game and joins NER.
What was downvotable about that? I thought we were doing bitter sarcasm tonight?
#IVERMECTIN We need a horse dewormer!
Good to be on the other end of one of Sweat’s infamous turnovers
Rosero…what. was. That?
Melia is the only reason this isn’t a shellacking.
I was listening to the ESPN deportes version of around the horn, and they were talking about Simeone who coaches Atlético Madrid and how he was going to possibly be out soon. Reason I bring it up is here’s the comment they made when they were talking about what he should do if he gets fired:
“I think he’s been in the league for awhile and while he experienced a lot of success in the past, it hasn’t been recently. His best move if he got fired, would be to take some time out of the league to learn the current state of the game and adjust his management style”
Man…….who does that sound like
The bad part for Simeone is he wanted to leave a few years back. But he was talked into staying because it would be bad for the club to lose the guy who earned them their shiny new stadium.
Unfortunately that’s how it goes, instead of going out on top they usually stay too long and get run out of town. Unless your Peter, he’s the exception and gets an extension 😒
You mean players under 30 are hungry and can actually play when given the chance……..mind blown 😒
Give me Tzionnis over Shelton every time.
Tell.me Tzionnis can’t create chances
Must say, the energy from Duke, Hernandez and Tzionnis is refreshing.
They showed more fight than any of the regulars other than Melia.
So Shelton is in the game because he can run and press. But he just threw.his hands up and stopped pressing. And he hasn’t played 30 mins.
Players who shouldn’t see the field again:
Khiry, fontas
Players who need to sit and not play for awhile:
Thommy, salloi
Send a message, make the vets play the open cup and let the kids play next weekend. Leave Peter and staff at the airport.
Thommy did nothing wrong this game. He was not the player attacks broke down around (Pulido). He did not make mistakes leading to goals (Espinoza, Duke). He didn’t take 35yard no hope shots.
Salloi was poor. Khiry and Fontas were awful. I agree on those.
Yup. Thommy looks poor because he has zero options up front. Salloi has zero threatening movement off the ball. Russell hasn’t been able to successfully dribble anyone for a while, and pulido has either completely lost it or had terrible training to be “sporting fit”.
Tzionis and hernandez gave more offensive movement than salloi did all game. Russell had better creative movement when he dropped to the middle. Even Duke provided more creative movement (mainly early on – but hey, he is a winger/midfielder, not a defender).
Agreed. I thought Thommy actually looked better.
I really want to see more of Tzionis this upcoming week. He came out tonight trying to make something happen.
Dude tries hard everytime he comes on and he still only gets a cameo with a random start. I feel for the young guys because they all hit the field with a fire to prove their worth and the best they get is a cameo run out while the old guys get to be straight up garbage with no chance of being benched. It’s beyond old at this point
Tzionis deserves better. At this point I hope we transfer him in the summer window because the dude is good enough to play somewhere instead of rotting on the bench while Vermes lets a bunch of guys who can’t get the job done get some run.
And it really fucking sucks to watch him sub in for 10 minutes in a different position than the one he was signed to play. Vermes sucks. Vermes out.
Was Tzionis not playing LW or LM when he came in?
The problem with watching MLS360 is it reminds how much fun soccer is out there across the league, which I didn’t see when I was 100% an SKC homer.
!00% agree. It is a very exciting league out there.
Instead of watching another stammering session of a press conference, I flipped over to the Cruz Azul vs Chivas game just in time for cruz azul to score. At least this evening hasn’t been complete bullshit